The following was posted by WBAI LSB Treasurer R. Paul Martin on another board. It should come as no surprise to anyone who has been following the WBAI JUC faction through the alley of ignorance. These people have no interest in the station that could possibly benefit it or its listeners. They are unprincipled manipulators who have no business in the broadcasting field, least of all at a Pacifica station. Of course, this is no longer Lew Hill's Pacifica—not even close. These thugs would not have been allowed beyond the front door when WBAI lived up to Mr. Hill's concept of an intelligent alternative to dial dross.
Here is R. Paul's account of the January 13, 2016 LSB meeting:
Here is R. Paul's account of the January 13, 2016 LSB meeting:
"So there was a WBAI Local Station Board (LSB) meeting set for January 13. When I showed up there I was told that the National Elections Supervisor had posted the WBAI election results right before the meeting. The meeting was set for 7:00 PM, and the date/time stamp on the E-mail was 5:44 PM. Great timing.
This meant that some of the people showing up for the meeting were no longer on the LSB, and most of the people who had just been elected didn't know it yet and weren't there. Most of us were of the opinion that the LSB meeting couldn't be valid under these circumstances.
The faction was making all sorts of assertions about who was a member, including saying that Vajra Kilgour, who had come in last in this election, as well as having come in last in the previous election, was now a member. In fact Kathryn Davis was the first runner-up and should take the seat of Janet Coleman who had termed out after six years on the LSB.
So this was a bit of a surprise. And I went into the meeting room and had my camera on and took video of what I saw, and I asked John Brinkley, the LSB Chair and a faction operative, what the story was. He was not pleasant. And then he got up, walked around the table and he started shoving me out of the room! I didn't move so easily. And then he hit the camera I was using, and the hand that was holding it.
After the assault Brinkley sat back down, comforted by serial assailant Cerene Roberts. The faction had once again caused violence at a WBAI LSB meeting."
And here is Tracy Rosenberg's West Coast caveat, distributed Tuesday:
Hi all,I know there's a lot going on with the transitions to new boards, but there is one situation that needs your immediate attention due to a large discrepancy.
It is my understanding that a claim is being made that the termed out seat of WBAI local station staff member (and PNB member) Janet Coleman can or should be given to the last remaining runner up from the 2012 election.
The justification provided for this appears to be a PNB motion passed in June of 2015.
Here's the problem. On December 9th, 2015, KPFA local station board member Andrea Prichett termed out at six years as an LSB member. The next runner up from the 2012 election, Beth Seligman, was NOT seated in her stead at the KPFA local station board meeting which occurred on December 12th. The seat was held open to be filled by the 1st runner up from the NEW 2015 election results, which were not released until December 16th - four days AFTER the meeting.
Now it may be that the former PNB chair, the PNB treasurer, and the PNB secretary, all of whom sit on the KPFA LSB, all violated the PNB's dictate as Cerene Roberts would apparently have it, but if that is the case the mistake needs to be corrected as Seligman has already lost more than a month of her term.
Or it may be that Cerene is not correct and all vacancies on local station boards as of December 2015 should be filled using the runner up lists from the elections conducted in 2015. Which is what I would personally suggest is correct.
But under all conditions, the same practice must be followed at all stations. It cannot be one set of rules for KPFA and quite another for WBAI. In the case of KPFA, there are no factional implications either way as Seligman, the next runner up from 2012, and T.M. Scruggs, the first runner up from the 2015 results provided by Simply Voting belong to the same faction.
I know that is not the case at WBAI, but regardless the same procedure must be followed at both local station boards.
This needs to be resolved asap so that boards can be seated in the next week.
So please establish the consistent rule that all stations need to follow with regards to delegates who termed out in December 2015.
Gary Null... just said the world would be a different place if Ralph Nader would be president, next sentence It doesn't matter 1 scintilla of difference who is president. hmm
ReplyDeleteNull is a study in inconsistency.
DeleteHello friends... I just want you all to know that I am sick and tired of WBAI and have evidence to put them all behind bars, working for tips, selling pints of organic, non-alcoholic vegetable flax juice. I will expose these criminals during my next tirade!
DeleteAll my temper tantrums and comments are to be taken very seriously, for the next 24 hours, or until I change my mind, whichever comes first.
Gary Nutt
looks like no more harry allen . Too bad , i liked his show .
ReplyDeleteMaybe he didn't want to play the race game .
I guess Jeannie will push a race rapper into that time slot. The changes they have made aren't going to win them any paying customers. Amateurs.
DeleteI also haven't heard Christy Thornton's show America Otherwise .Not really my bag , but she did
ReplyDeleteseem pretty knowledgable and professional .
I guess the figured The Blacks and Reverend Billy would fit the new dumbed down version of bai better.
They are a perfect fit, right down there with Rebel Diaz, Haskins, Daulton, et al. The bottom of the barrel is filled with slithering nonentities.
DeleteBob Lederer was always a handsome devil.
ReplyDeleteKGT
I am told that he gives his Halloween mask money to WBAI. :)
DeleteBob Lederer juices and follows "Reverse the Aging Process Naturally: How to Build the Immune System With Antioxidants--The Super-nutrients of the Nineties (Gary Null Natural Health Library)". How else could he look that good?
ReplyDeleteKGT
Well, to tell the truth, I juice too. But that one doesn't count.
DeleteKGT
I juice and smoothie. Those are the only things I recommend when it comes to all the health claims out there. No, won't cure serious diseases, probably, but it will keep you healthier and in better shape.
DeleteSDL
Squeezing a glass of banana juice takes a lot out of you, but it's good physical exercise.
DeleteOh, funny man... Actually, I peel, cut, freeze them and use them in smoothies, which gives a nice creamy texture. Avocados (not frozen) are great for that, too.
DeleteHowever, I must try your suggestion, as well as squeezing a stone to get blood out of it. Oh, wait, I don't want to be GM of WBAI...
SDL
Squeezing a stone to get a drop of blood is easier than squeezing Reimers and his gang to get a word of truth.
DeleteMy last comment was a joke. But it was so sophisticated that nobody got it.
DeleteKGT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZqjshkWvm0
ReplyDeletePoor Cerene.
The trouble is that no one has ever sat down and honestly talked to that woman.
TPM
They tried, but she shoved them to the floor... except Bernard, who filled her wool-capped ears with amazing fantasies. Granted, that was not honest talk, but honesty is toxic in those semi-circles.
DeleteThis is like porn to Cerene...
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwIhxzPTbyo
SDL
So it isn't that wool cap, after all... Hmmmmm
Delete"One man's trash is another man's treasure."
ReplyDeleteWhat Paul Martin has described is an example of that adage: Roberts, Haskins, et al are trying to take over something 90 percent of its former audience abandoned long ago. And they aren't coming back.
So true, Justine, but why haven't they reach that conclusion?
Delete"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" – Upton Sinclair
ReplyDelete~ ‘indigopirate’
That nails it!
ReplyDeleteWould anyone be in favor of inviting Victor Vancier/Chaim Ben Pesach of the Jewish Task Force to do a weekly show on WBAI?
ReplyDeleteKGT
He is certainly sufficiently psychotic to be granted a time slot, but then again, so was George Lincoln Rockwell, and so is Netanyahu. Sometimes they just give them the occasional behind-the-bars talk-on, as in the case of "Mumia", or try to squeeze them into a board seat, as in the case of Stewart.
DeleteThere is no dearth of hate mongers already in place at Cerena's WBAI
If it defies reason and decency, the Cerenes of this netherworld are ready play Shove-a-Dove.
From Lynne Stewart's website:
ReplyDelete"Janet Coleman was term-limited on December 22, 2015 and our Vajra Kilgour inherited the year remaining in her term as the bylaws require. The ACE-Indy crew are claiming that the staff runner-up from the new election should get Coleman’s seat."
Janet was elected in 2012 but is now termed out. Vajra is the remaining alternate after Jeannie Hopper and Camille Raneem. The Indy slate is saying we just had an election and
Kathy Davis is the lead alternate for staff. She was followed in the results by Wuyi Jacobs, Mitch Cohen, Bob Lederer?, Vajra (4 votes)and Dani Lamar (1 vote).
There are two separate meetings scheduled this week. I wonder how this will all pan out.
The wrecking crew is clearly feeling a need to escalade their scheme to maintain ill-gotten majority on every level. They will stop at nothing. The time to restore WBAI and rid it of these thugs has long since reached the no return point, so—quite frankly—I think that plug must be pulled like an old bathroom chain to flush out the elements that continue to infest Pacifica.
DeleteThat's a sad conclusion to reach, but it is one about which I see no possibility of a meaningful debate.
bai ... gonna replay the gloria j brown and haskins 1134 list show .
ReplyDeletenow there's a winning strategy to bring in more listeners . haha
Another idiotic programming decision. Ms. Brown is one of Murillo's racist recruits. WBAI is a disaster... It would never occur to them to tally the number of people who died at the hands of civilians... Black on black killings, for example. Perhaps they are too busy worshipping cop killer Cook, who plays the role of "Mumia" in an ongoing prison act.
DeleteI had to turn WBAI on to see for myself. This is truly just silly egoism in place of having someone do a proper radio show.
DeleteIn the mind of Hay-tie Haskins, this is probably some sort of epic radio broadcast, but it is sending people running for safety, like The War of the Worlds broadcast from Orson Welles.
In the same two hours these doofs could play the 1977 ESB takeover/shutdown tape, which was when some people at WBAI had more guts than to hide behind a mic and spew crap.
SDL
Yes, it is a stupid waste of air time and, yes, this is the sort of nonsense that Haskins' SRO mind would consider profound. Why not name victims of civilian murders... they could go around the clock with that one... and black-on-black killings? But that would be heresy.
DeleteI have a better idea. Why not read off the names of WBAI former supporters who stopped giving money since Reimers came into the GM position? Why not? Because it's a much longer list and would take all day to read?
DeleteSDL
Has Donald Trump ever been on WBAI?
ReplyDeleteKGT
Not to my knowledge, but he would fit in, these days.
DeleteI know it's fun to pull out names of some loons to give a spot on WBAI. Hell, I could say put Tom Metzger on, if you want a neo-nazi. Yes, it may be good for a laugh, but it probably won't earn more than $10.00.
DeleteIn all seriousness, if you want a right wing nut on, simulcast the Alex Jones show. I bet in one month he would earn more cash for WBAI than Null. Jones comes in with a built in listenership.
SDL
Reading the roster of people who paid exorbitant prices plus s&h for "gifts" they never received will not only fill a lot of time, it will be a perpetual reading.
DeleteThey should be forced to have a 2 hour weekly Report to the Listener About Their Missing Premiums show, hosted by Hay-tie. Imagine the angry calls? It could be a pretty fun listen, when you think about it.
DeleteSDL
Perhaps the victims of WBAI's various scams ought to demand reparations.
DeleteIt kind of amazes me that at least 20 people haven't held a protest in front of WBAI over this. In the old days, people actually did hold protests against WBAI when they were pissed.
DeleteSays a lot about the activist listeners now, I guess.
SDL
I think lethargy may be contagious. It could also be that they know a protest won't work on the bozos. Many a phone call to the "office" has been wasted—Reimers and his scammers are in hiding, the racists don't want to rock the sinking boat, and the good guys are just riding this nightmare out.
DeleteNow we are just five days away from yet another month-long (at least) flimflam, one that promises to be hate-filled and abortive.
It is over—the bottom of this barrel has been scraped.
I think a lot of the people who would have protested are the people who stopped listening and supporting the station. There is the problem. The Remnants are now well over 60 years old and often ill. They aren't capable of coming out for the day.
DeleteI wonder if Tony Bates will be part of the next beg-a-thon and make his commission or salary, whichever it was.
Personally, I think this barrel has some well hidden nooks in it to still be scraped. However, ever see a cat or dog keep licking a seemingly cleaned off plate of food? Maybe there is still some flavor on it we humans can't taste but animals can.
I still think WBAI's management is there to just buy time until the station is sold off.
SDL
Once they sell WBAI, they can finish the job of destroying KPFK and,--perhaps by default--KPFA. The DC people must see the handwriting on the wall. Houston? They seem to be relatively healthy... relatively.
DeleteBates didn't do so well last month, but failure has never stopped Reimers from ordering another round.
In theory, (From Pacifica point's of view) would a sale of WBAI put them back on
Deletetrack? The bulk of liability appears to be WBAI and KPFK. The CA stations seem to work together. KPFT is relatively OK. Affiliates are grumbling but are paying about 200,000 a year. I don't know about DC or Archives.
The Indy slate met tonight as the Delegates Assembly to elect PNB directors. They seated Kathy Davis and the thirteen members elected PNB directors. They
Deleteare apparently not going to contest Lynne Stewart but are contesting Vajra.
With Vajra, the two sides have twelve members each. With Kathy, its 13-11 indy.
That explains why they're pushing to seat Vajra. The Indy slate will not attend the LSB special meeting Wed night. JUC may try to elect their own directors. Now it finally makes sense. The folks at the meeting seemed to be preparing for litigation. They had someone recording the meeting and voted by ballot even though the races were not competitive.
The elections, and all the demented trauma around it means nothing. Just another cyclic mutiny on the Titanic. However in your graphic I note how much older Bob Leadera (sp?) seems to have become. Interesting. He like I did seems to have devoted many years of his life to the place.
ReplyDeleteNow as with I, and others it shows.
Different reasons for being with WBAI to be sure, but still. Now he's a vet. I'd love to chat with him at the eventual "Post WBAI" re-union balls. No doubt to be held in whatever garage is willing to rent to us.
Just out of curiosity I'd like to know what the 15 years or more of the "JUC" frankly violent, and destructive activity was all about. I mean who started it whose been funding it what was it's real, purpose if any.
I'd like to know what was the engine that ultimately destroyed WBAI, and perhaps all of the Pacifica Foundation.
I's like it to be part of one of my books.
Stay Tuned.
When the national and then in turn the local boards came to define themselves, their purpose, and the purpose of Pacifica as a determined dedication to political advocacy, in abrogation if not indeed defiance of the foundational purposes of Pacifica, the path was chosen.
ReplyDeleteThe seizure and occupation of 1977 were a doomed attempt to defy that path and so, in the aftermath of that defeat, and in the fullness of time, WBAI/Pacifica find themselves at this place.
~ ‘indigopirate’
Indeed from 1977 to 2016 it has been a sad era of slow decline. A broadcast suicide pact. Though I will say the early 1980's was a time where the original principles of the Foundation was for a very short time time adhered to.
ReplyDeleteIf nothing else we has fun.
It was a joyful time of radio activities...at least from my point of view. It quickly ended though. The rise of Mr. Marksman the accession of V.V.I. as manager set us into the deep dark waters of racist noise, and overt antisemitism.
That, and the destruction of any humane vision. Internally the sense of camaraderie community even among some family was deliberately broken. Many of our most inventive programming came from that weird fun stew.
It was killed outright.
Our best talents were forced out or left...many going to WNYC or NPR where they shined. They could have shined here, and helped the station to prosper. However that kind of light wasn't wanted. As Mr. Bernard White so famously or infamously said,
"...we don't want that Demographic."
Well indeed we no longer have it. Hence the soon death of WBAI.
Though it may linger as a rump state of a handful of elderly fanatics probably on another, and inaccessible frequency. It will never be what it was, and could have been. The worse aspects of 1970's extremist culture killed it.
Angels weep.