Monday, November 5, 2018

PNB: Vote a mess...


In a longer piece I'll discuss two topics arising from the statement made by five KPFK LSB delegates, the one kindly posted by Chris: money, & the abandoned election. It means we have to consider the PNB's traumatised offspring, the pseudo-election process they gave birth to on Thursday, an act reminiscent of a certain visceral cinematic scene. This has been a long time in the making. It took many months, nay, years, to prepare Rosemary for Thursday evening. Now it has happened. So, expressed in the culturally-specific arithmetic found in PacificaWorld: let PNB = I & IL = RP, I + RP = RIP.

Jara Handala's commentary.

The above link is to a downloadable PDF file

37 comments:

  1. Jara has it almost right. If this election doesn't meet quorum or otherwise isn't completed, the same LSB members stay on - unless or until they meet the 6 year automatic term out. At KPFK, everyone got elected in either 2015 or 2016 so no one will term out. They will just stay put and continue on. Not sure about the other stations but considering the absence of elections in 2013, 2014 or 2015, not too many are close to terming out.

    Grace Aaron and Jan Goodman believe that just saying they're having an election will prevent them from being sued for not having an election. So no matter how illegitimate it is, they're having an election.

    Poor Maxie. No CFO. No NES. At some point he will realize he was hired for a job that cannot be done. The board wants to micromanage everything while doing zero work and being ignorant, incompetent, lazy and arrogant with a large dose of secrecy fetishism.

    Kim

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    1. thanks Kim for your comments. And let's also openly admit how often the very same people return to an LSB or PNB seat too, so that there are repeat-agendas and repeat-crony-alliances vs. new creative voices or ideas.

      The very same names are seen, as they manipulate to get the tiny criteria needed to be 'elected' = actually 'selected' by their small cohort.

      To trust their motives or their repeated same antiquated desires aka 'promises' - is just like all other political slogans = claims made/ said that they Only Want to help, to improve their station or their license-holder = that [Pacifica org - that even now consists of the same majority repeat old PNBers, not different yet ]

      To expect better, as getting new, innovative solutions, ideas, plans, expertise in action vs. slinging words around - instead of getting instead just the same old ways = the old unhelpful solutions that get stuck in the muck accumulated therein.

      To want better - as in having honest explanations of what these psuedo-leaders do that works well, is not heard by 'the rest of us - payers, donors, volunteers, loyal audience'.
      Instead, their agendas are [secreted] behind word-walls, and we remain far away with no say but complaints - "us", being still treated as if gullible and foolish - again and again.

      Some people watch horror movies/TV/novels etc. for distractions - to see blood & gore and feel scared, or we watch political govt elections. We, reading about our investment, in Pacifica et al, we can only watch the same dramas, with subtle variations over years - and with most of same actors at the Pacifica theater-stage - or at our local stunted station.

      That is if any info leaks out about what is happening past 'on-air' slanted hosts & their selected 'guests' promoting themselves ....duh.....

      sad. Is it all just like enter-tainment diversions to keep from being bored? fake news?
      Is this all just a repeat drama -we still take notice of because we have already *invested* so much money, and time, and hope ?

      Do we like pretending we believe what is being presented? Or that we payers, devoted players of this Pacifica idealistically-claimed 'game' have any actual expectations that 'things can change' after all that has NOT ?

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    2. Sorry for the delay in replying, Kim. This is a crucial matter, not least with the PNB majority passing a motion to, beyond their powers (ultra vires), extend their one-year term by a few months minimum.

      I wrote what I did because of what the by-laws say (& I cite what's relevant); they are not consist with you saying "[i]f this election doesn't meet quorum or otherwise isn't completed, the same LSB members stay on - unless or until they meet the 6 year automatic term out". As I said, a procedure is specified: replacement (re-population, in the jargon) from the last election result. Director Medusa, a.k.a. Grace Aaron, & director Gorgon, a.k.a. Jan Goodman, spoke an irrelevance at a recent PNB meeting when saying the dross would become station delegates, people who didn't even expect to be elected. With this the contempt of these ignorant, arrogant autocrats reached a new depth.

      But Kim, which by-law section(s) did you have in mind for your claim, something apart from previous practice?


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  2. Thank you, Jara :)

    I do have one minor criticism: Rosemary's Baby, as the Scion of Satan, was arguably infinitely more legitimate than Pacifica.

    In any event, the film offers the confluence of Mia Farrow and Roman Polanski – what more could we ask for?

    Other than that, I'm curious as to how long Maxie will hang in there. Corporate-Speak Aside, he seems rational. It's easy to see how idealism, possible practical necessity, and a worthy challenge might well motivate him.

    Here's the thing, though...

    These are still overwhelmingly, the same loathsome dysfunctional scum they've been for years.

    John Proffitt, the last experienced, qualified professional they had as Executive Director, walked away in polite, civilized frustration and the tacit acknowledgment that they were beyond help, let alone salvation, after only five months.

    How long for Maxie, then?

    ~ 'indigopirate'

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    1. Does Pacifica have D&O insurance? Now that the PNB has violated several CA state laws, they are financially responsible for the penalties, not to mention the Pension fines and interest. Pacifica exceptionalism only goes so far, but not far enough to the Federal penitentiary, maybe things will change?

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    2. I'm not absolutely certain. This seems to be one of the infinite number of things for which there's either no information or a lack of clarity. I have, however, asked at a number of points in the past year or two, and I'm under the semi-clear-fairly-clear impression and understanding that they no longer have Directors & Officers Coverage.

      Why anyone would take a job with them under that circumstance speaks volumes.

      As do an infinite number of other far more substantive considerations.

      ~ 'indigopirate'

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    3. Truth is like garlic on a stake to these voluntary shut-ins.

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  3. Bonnie Faulkner's guest on today's show denies man-made climate change, and Faulkner is agreeing with him. And so it goes.

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  4. And, according to Faulkner and her guest, climate change is a hoax perpetrated by a conspiracy led by the Rockefeller family. Apparently, the Illuminati are preoccupied by other conspiracies.

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    1. Bonnie Faulkner's hour of doom has its followers. Sadly, they love it when her fact-twisting guests reflect their own delusions. She has ample opportunity to challenge the often self-published, baseless tabloid stories of her fear-mongering guests. Better yet, she has the option to not invite them to her program and—even better—Pacifica has the option to keep her away from the listener-supporters' microphone.

      Faulkner's distorted approach to radio is disgraceful.

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    2. Chris - mentioning there are more & other than those "evil republican party hacks" who are 'fear mongering' to their public listeners?

      Pacifican programmers [owners] continually, consistently use FEAR and "be afraid, very afraid" messages, and premium pitches regularly.

      Ever hear anything that is reassuring or just-mere-information or data instead of the hyped, slanted, spun & biased views on any Pacifica station, and repeat replayed on another station that lacks programs ?

      We too often, awfully, hear messages that ensure fear and anxiety and hate and alliances to only 1 group [identified as if "victims" only, never having done any harm or warring or damage themselves ...

      or labeled as authorities giving their version of what a dangerous, horrible world we live in and if we only listened to Them, paid them, went to their events, joined their cause, then only could we .... uh huh

      this is not occasional programming, so are PD's choosing these [stuck-there-forever-after too] allowed INSIDE the radio station's halls to insure they can use that fear mongering to increase audience size, maybe ?

      or do they don't care that they are mostly send many thinking-paying-people away ?

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  5. Here I am worried about Soros and it turns out the Rockefellers are behind it all. I've still got
    my eye on you Chris. Your anti-Danish views are so 20th century. The future is the EU. A federal
    Europe. a United States of Europe....OK I need to lie down now.

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  6. What's on the agenda at KPFT you may ask:

    Sinclair: I move that the KPFT LSB hold a monthly happy hour with the goals of bringing new listeners to KPFT, raising money for the station, and creating live specials to be sold as podcasts. ....

    C. Gartner: Whereas Rhonda Garner made threats of violence against KPFT members, disparaged members with ridicule, called names, and used foul language against members, be it resolved an investigative committee of the LSB be formed to examine the conduct of Rhonda Garner to decide if she should remain on the board and be able to run in future KPFT LSB elections.

    C. Gartner: Whereas, the actions of Matthew Moore during the October 10, 2018 LSB meeting, threatened me and threatened Pat Hartwell, when Matthew rose out of his seat as though he was going to physically attack Pat at the end of her comments during Public Session, Whereas, a plethora of vicious and threatening E Mail comments have been made by Matthew Moore both to myself and to others of this board, have constituted a safety threat to myself and other members, And whereas, Matthew Moore shouted out two vicious remarks last night, 29 Oct 18, which constituted a threat to me and to others, I move that a panel be formed to investigate the actions and words (E Mails) of Matthew Moore and that resulting from the investigation, if evidence is proved, he be sanctioned with suspension for two months from any and all regular Board and Board related meetings, to include committee meetings.

    D. Gartner: Whereas Adrienne La Violette has for the past six months engaged in systematic defamation, character assassinations, shaming statements, verbal public derision, foul language, and general vicious E Mail remarks* toward myself and others of the KPFT local station Board, EXAMPLE: 14 Oct 18 10:07PM La Violette criticizes Ted for allegedly Bcc-ing people on an e mailing, telling him he is not transparent. Furthermore she tells Ted he “should start working well with others”, like she is some authority on Ted’s character. Note that she does this publically! She suggests that Ted is trying to stir up trouble by saying that he “should let sleeping dogs lie” . Then she extends herself to having the belief that not only he “but his friends have the problem of not working well with others”! Then she blasts him with “You are part of the problem”. Then she makes a reference to “cue the shitty response from you know who”’ (AKA Bob Gartner) and “Please God let it not be weirdly pseudo sexual this time”. (Meaning Bob Gartner) Therefore she is alleging and ascribing traits to
    me calling me pseudo sexual! Be it resolved to appoint an investigative committee to examine this matter to include all of the E Mail* examples of these (her) alleged attacks on such people as myself, to include....

    E. Gartner: I move that the KPFT LSB recommend on behalf of Mr. Don Freeman to the Pacifica Executive
    Director, consideration for a salary increase, effective immediately, for his diligent efforts at being not only an effective KPFT's Program Director and particularly for his excellent performance for being at the helm as interim KPFT General manager, especially since the departure of Jerry Sumrall. Furthermore, consideration for this motion/matter should now be made because at the present time it is not known when, or if, the choice of a permanent General Manager will occur.

    F. Gartner: Whereas Jim Krafka sent two emails alluding to prostitution and violence, I move that Jim Krafka be investigated by a panel of the LSB and sanctioned if found to be true, for making sexually related remarks and making suggestions to violence to be imposed upon members of the KPFT LSB, which includes myself.

    I. Saibara-Naritomi: The LSB moves to have an intermission after Public Comment or if there is no public comment, at 8:30 pm, the approximate half point of the meeting, IN ORDER TO USE THE REST ROOM
    WITHOUT MISSING THE MEETING, and to be able to CONVERSE, with the Public and with each
    other, dance, sing and share snacks TOGETHER.

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  7. ahhhh, threats​ from LSB ​ are not new but seldom addressed, or​ even a​ safety a concern, not just at KPFT but​ also ​a few yrs ago at KPFK :

    ​As when: ​another then public​ visitor​ ​[​now LSB reviv​ed again​ member ]​ ​called Re​z​a​]​​ - ​came outside​ from meeting -following a woman​ to parking lot ​ -he actually move​ toward​, physically threaten​ed, ​ another woman public member - ​as she ​was going to ​enter ​her car, unaware of the danger he threatened -

    and he [​maybe ​did not like her /​ ​did not agree with her ]​ but that man actually raised his fists,​+ shouted ​in wild fury ​ +​​ quickly ​moved​ intimidatingly​ towards her - as she was simply entering her car.... until his also mid-eastern 'friend' actually-​ ​physically ​ held him back ​.

    ​He screamed​ frightening, intimidating cursing​ insults &​ shout​ing​, ​+ his ​​instense ​angry​,​ threatening​,​​ demeaning​​ words ​ ​"whore, slut, c--t, get out ! + + " & more : tho those ​words and actions were not further filled by ​his intended ​physical injury -​ & only ​because of that 2nd male 'friend' accompanying this so-called 'revolutionary' man​ from​ abusing his American rights. ​

    If this [= a real, actually seen scene & description] sounds like ​some other​ national trait​s​ vs. ​a ​personal mental illness ​ -​ who knows​ ?​ ​or as ​if​ similar actions are ​ seen repeatedly ​in various ​world areas, this man assumed he can do same here too. He had previously​ sometimes ​was ​seen​ to ​behave ferociously​,​​ but not as seriously threatening harm, ​​at LSB meetings.

    ​T​hen​, when ​this was reported to the then chairwoman of LSB, she wanted to ignore whole scene​. She irresponsibly ​claim​ed​ she 'didnt see it herself' dismissing the danger.

    Then as a possible preventative, a​ 2nd​ request was made for chairwoman to send to all other LSB members a description of what happened right outside the bldg where LSB-PNB meetings regularly are held in LA, in​side that private parking lot. ​ She conceded to do that - merely re-send the description to LSB members. ​

    ​So, assume that was sent, so said,​ but then​ without any word ​ of concern ​from any single LSB member -​it seemed that ​ no one was concerned about the safety of anyone​ who was​ not ​a ​selected​ ​LSB​er​ ? ​ No safety or precautions or noted warnings were made.

    This is KPFK's LSB - then. Hope it is different now, but who is to know?

    ​Wilder are the ​customs - ​because this same vehement male has been and now continues to be selected to act out​ his anger within the LSB​ - now still​ as a ​reinstated as ​member=​is this ​ a privilege of membership ?

    Stranger things happen than are ever admitted openly​. ​ ​E​ven within the LSB communities, as​ the very​ same​ old​ people return​ -​ to play their same​ games/​ role/ ​display own biases & prejudices​ - ​ regardless of​ bad, uncivil​ behaviors​.​

    ​Yes, episode then was ​reported to police [who said if no assault actually took place​ in private lot, ​ they could not make official report either , duh ].

    The​ then​ chair​woma​n,​& ​the LSB members ​continued to ​pretended 'nothing unusual happened' as far as they were concerned.

    The woman​ - concerned for her physical safety -​ never returned to that dangerous, unsafe place again. Of course.

    Is it better at another location, station ? Or are dangers there also ignored & denied ?

    ​ ​[[strangely, a current search for the list of KPFK LSB members is not on Pacifica's nor found on KPFK's websites - and google lists old info w/o such an easy-to-exhibit list. Who are they ? Where is list ? Why is it difficult to find actual LSB member names ? ]] ​--

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    1. What you describe if accurately described is assault and/or menacing. It ought to have been reported and prosecuted as such. If the statement attributed to the police officer is accurate then the officer(s) was/were inccurate or otherwise out of line.

      In other words, someone is lying.

      It ain't complicated :)

      ~ 'indigopirate'

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    2. The Pacifica calendar lists all board & cttee. members, albeit sometimes inaccurately. Just click on the day when the body of interest meets (here, 18Nov, the next KPFK LSB), & 'committee members' appears. It lists 26 people, although the maximum number of delegates is 24 (18 listeners, 6 staff).

      Wednesday coming the LA Finance Cttee meets. Apparently Christine Blosdale is a member. The calendar doesn't confirm that she'll be providing her latest elixir as the half-time refreshments (yes, it is yet another Arabic loan word).
      https://kpftx.org/pacalendar/index.php

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    3. thank you for info - but still could not get list of KPFK LSB members . The Pacifica Calendar "agenda" listings have address only, date & only 2 links: "text "which gives location only, no agenda. And"view" which turns up blank on my machine. No other links found.

      You may have better search abilities ? good for you.

      The KPFK website was reviewed Again, just now, but no LSB list or link.
      Only the meeting event you mention Nov 14 w/location only, no info.

      The KPFK 'contacts and location" is only top tab that is listed as of 12/17 by webmaster, with no LSB links therein. And they even leave off as Roy Tuckman as a program 'host' there -tho he is a paid regular staff member for centuries there.

      The prior version of this now simplified KPFK website had the LSB as a link for a while only , and then it is gone again, as now.

      No "site map", nor any links, tabs that indicate there is any input to the station staff or management, other than generic emails - like GM is email as"contact" vs. his name or title. [Weird thinking and names are thus carefully hidden].

      We realize how difficult it is to always be Just Complaining. Here.

      Then realized : when there is so much secrecy and cover ups and so little transparency, it is thus difficult to find what to honestly compliment or like. How to offer any positive recommendations when no one wants it from their donor/payor/members/listeners ?

      Does management or staff ever consult with professionals, experts, experienced radio people ? Or anyone with official post or even volunteer status ever want any feedback ?

      Or does the whole org [and every-one therein ] just want "to be left alone to do it as we want to only- to be completely Independent ! " ?

      A strange way to do what they call a corporation that is "not commercial" = as if it was not a business "?

      The LSB members have never, ever, accepted any emails nor addresses listed - even back when for the short while when members were listed on website, but ....then all gone again.

      Only then the LSB chairperson had an address without her name, of course. [Gotta be careful with all them donors = mad at not seeing what they thought they were paying for, right ?]

      Thanks again, to Chris, and all those who provide any actual info, research, data and serious questions that appear on this site.

      Is this the substitute info place for other/ each of 5 Pacifica radio station website ? Or do others list their LSB members on ea website, easily find-able?

      thanks Jara for providing what you found. tho I didn't . duh.

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    4. You were on the correct calendar page for the KPFK LSB, Su18Nov, https://kpftx.org/pacalendar/cal_show1.php?eventdate=20181118 , & you found "View" & "Text" on the left-hand side; on the other side, as should be for each Pacifica meeting, is "Committee Members". Voilà!

      PNB, ED, & all five LSB's have email addresses: pnb@pacifica.org ; ed@pacifica.org ; kpfalsb@googlegroups.com , lsb@kpfk.org , lsb@kpft.org , wpfwlsb@gmail.com , & WBAI only has website-embedded email addresses, so https://wbai.org/contact.php?contact=Board:LocalStation (from https://www.wbai.org/contact.php ).

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    5. thanks for your continual input here= with directions. Tho they dont see to work for me,even on a different computer - there is no "other side" links and the entire list of events is on left side, ea boxed in and with same results as before. I trust you can do magic some of us cannot.

      the generic "lsb@kpfk.org" is not a list of members [currently & still abusing the privilege. ] The list of members is still a mystery to us donors and investors.

      plus the strange msg listed under 'elections' on Pacifica's site said something about elections not happening in cleverer words ?

      and this on events for Nov 15: "Motions from Strategic Planning and Audit committees. Motion on KPFT violation of PNB's resolution on phone participation. ED signatory authority. Delegate elections update. Approve 403(b) auditt. Meeting called by directors Crosier, Aaron, Sabbagh, and Steinberg.
      Cancelled"

      ahh so many difficult curves and steep falls of the cliffs of any actual data/ info.
      Perhaps a waste of dedication and curiosity.

      thanks for your work & input, Jara.

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  8. A sign? https://twitter.com/WBAI/status/1061650010947903488

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  9. excellent dead humor. this is what helps. a grim grin.

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  10. Readers may find of interest:

    1) a copy of the National Elections Supervisor's resignation letter, which explains that he resigned because the PNB had rejected his two options. This was made *the day after* the PNB meeting that also agreed to pay for a pseudo-election. Pacifica's public report of that meeting (penned by Bill Crosier, the temporary Secretary) falsifies the sequence of events by saying the resignation *preceded* the PNB's decisions https://www.mediafire.com/file/tsq23bs6txk7dmg/x_Graeme+Drew+notice+of+resignation+to+ED+Maxie+Jackson+III_W31Oct18_2018+Pacifica+delegates+election.pdf .

    It's of note that having a pseudo-election is *not in the gift* of the PNB: it's above the cost threshold that now delimits Pacifica's autonomy, so *paying for it requires the prior agreement of the Foundation for the Jewish Community*, which as FJC has lent Pacifica $3 265 000 & holds in collateral *all* of Pacifica's property (PNB chair Nancy Sorden's 'loan summary', 16 June, pages 1 & 2) https://www.mediafire.com/file/c5ddvbbejhw8ver/Pacifica_s+loan+from+FJC_breaching+the+terms_and+who+are+FJC_with+FY2016+Regalia+addendum_F19Oct18_8pp.pdf ;

    2) the audio of the 2004 PNB meeting that made as policy the NES having "full independent authority to supervise all aspects of the elections": https://kpftx.org/archives/pnb/pnb040622/pnb040622a.mp3 from 19:22, especially 41:43 (Vicki Santa; then an exchange between Lonnie Hicks (CFO) & Alice Shields (WBAI)). Directors in favour included Sonali Kolhatkar, host of the California breakfast programme, Rising Up; &

    3) my piece on matters arising from the statement by five KPFK LSB delegates, kindly published by Chris here. I focus on money & the abandoned election (it's 14 pages) https://www.mediafire.com/file/4aegzryu8h7vn22/PNB_Abandoned_Election_and_Rosemary_s_Baby_re_5_KPFK_PSB_delegates_s_statement_Drew_resignation_letter_F9Nov18_14pp.pdf .

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    1. @JH Thanks, as always, for providing us with that information.

      Crosier, too, then, is an unreliable source. Sad. Then again, if you're willing to work with this scum I suppose it's to be expected.

      I'll note in passing that the Strategic Planning Committee Meeting scheduled for this evening is, as of ninety minutes past the time scheduled, simply not happening – or is in Super Secret Double Overtime, which would seem unlikely given that they often simply don't show and when they do they 'discuss' pipe dreams in no way connected to reality, and with no actual thought of possible implementation beyond 'Wouldn't it be nice if...'

      In a sense the one remarkable thing is, as many have noted, that they get away with their various scams and clear illegalities without consequence.

      Perhaps they do inhabit a private little universe...

      ~ 'indigopirate'

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    2. Until payment is do, the California AG, IRS, Pension funds, and mechanic's leans, will put them in an altered universe, the universe of accountability. Get ready for the perp walk!

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    3. . . . yes, guess the PNB Strategic Procrastinating Cttee was either cancelled or not recorded. (Calendar hasn't declared it 'no show'; alternatively this could be the third/fourth recent meeting or session that hasn't been recorded, which at least pleases the info gatekeepers & the Texas Witchfinders-General.)

      These last few months I've spent a bit of time looking at different aspects of Pacifica. I have to say, I'm beginning to visualise Pacifica's last chance saloon: I think the only hope Pacifica has is Maxie coming to the realisation that the network needs The GR Treatment, & lets him loose on the PNB & the stations. Harsh perhaps, but what else can anyone do? At least it would make an hour of entertainment – & as they say, no publicity is bad publicity.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6M_HpMVTPU

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    4. @JH

      With respect...

      I quite like that GR clip. The problem here, of course, as you well recognize, is that the only possible source of authority for letting Maxie III loose on the PNB would have to be [beat]... the Board.

      The attempt on the part of one faction to go into Ch 11 about a year ago was presumably in part because there would then be a source of authority other than the PNB, in the form of the court and/or court-appointee and/or debtors committee. Well, for precisely that reason it became a non-starter. They would far rather accumulate further debt than confront realities. Anything to postpone. Anything to buy time. Anything... anything but that dread word, change.

      The only – and I do mean the only – thing that is capable of uniting these various bits of scum is their resistance to change and/or anyone having any authority or control over them. The comparisons to the most vile sort of privileged and/or spoiled children has been made, and with good reason.

      It's been the case for literally four decades-plus. It's the case, still. It will remain the case until and unless they're broken into pieces or collapse all together.

      If I recall rightly, incidentally, the condition upon which WBAI was gifted to Pacifica requires that it can be sold or donated only to an appropriate non-profit. And such an eventuality might not be all bad. In any case, as I'v said, please forgive my endlessly tiresome repetition, it's not the media world of the 1950s. There are infinite readily-available, accessible, affordable alternatives. The loss of Pacifica would matter very little. Indeed, one can easily argue that it has in fact been lost, as a voice, for a very long time indeed.

      ~ 'indigopirate'

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  11. Latest from Andrea Katz

    December Fund Drive dates: Dec. 3- Dec. 16.

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  12. The once a year playing of the Archives .... Yeah the same one they played like four or five times
    so far this year !
    These morons insult your intelligence on a daily basis.
    And as i say everytime they play this , 3600 hours , but you will hear the same people over and over and over , mostly black dead people having to do something around civil rights with heavy doses of
    white bashing thrown in .

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  13. [re entered because comment was inadvertently misplaced ] reply to pirates claims of lying:

    a strange reply from the writer pirate here who claims someone is lying, but who is he referring to in his comment? writing that : "In other words, someone is lying."

    Who is pirate accusing, that must mean he knows who was there and what happened? or is in denial or collusion or enabling ? Was it the woman who was threatened? the police ? the man who was furiously shouting he would hurt her physically ? or whom ?

    what does that incongruous comment mean - it doesnt sound impartial or objective, of course.
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    1. The comment, the pirate said, referring to himself for no particular reason in the third person, is self-explanatory.

      ~ 'indigothemomentarilyselfreferentialpirate'

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    2. which 'self' ?as in pretend confusing explaining who is the liar that is stated, not as writer, pirate, but someone else - in the same guy's non-self-deprecatory reply above.
      Why continue to pretend to be nice :) ...when comments are mean, demeaning and sometimes irrelevant, as the liar-statement one is ?

      that pirate commentator appears to have special privileges to be arrogantly dismissive of others on this open-commentary site. yuk.

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    3. "Indigopirate" has the same privilege as all who post a comment here, including you, Anon.

      I am sorry if that poses a problem for you. Let's be real, you, too, veil an identity—your own. That's not a complaint, just an observation..

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    4. anonymity is necessary because of people who act with malicious pretend-nice-guy-ness that is apparently one of your allies and you are defending his sarcasm and continual obvious DISTRUST of anyone but himself. - opposite of how you appear here.

      it is thus difficult to allow his superiority playing as if he knew more than someone else who comments here.

      You, Chris, do not do what you are defending. It is not 'anonymity' that is in question here - but the irrelevant, confusing questioning of what others write - that pirate continually demeans - to many, tho not a select few he likes. He has a right to be mean and pretend he is not, of course, anywhere, including here. But to just let it be his 'last word' as if he were the appropriate authority would be shameful.

      you chose to defend him for your own reasons, and as blog-master, of course, you can do anything here. ok with me too.

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    5. @Anon

      You, sir/madam/or small child, are a paranoid imbecile. Or, perhaps, you're simply playing that role here, the internet being a playful and a joyful place.

      I've already stated that the statement which seems to have aroused your paranoid imbecility is self-explanatory.

      It is.

      You may therefore try again, or you may simply crawl into a corner and alternately snarl and weep.

      I have, you see, finite patience with paranoid imbeciles.

      For which fact I make no apologies,

      ~ 'indigo, pirate'

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    6. 'trolls' use mean words like you do venting here, just deliberately trying to insult and hurt '=

      using repeatedly such demeaning words like: "paranoid imbecile" 3x + " snarl" + "small child" +"crawl into a corner" ...

      what kind of person enjoys writing that reeking venom = describing and directed to strangers or any other people with such ugly language ? Just copying pirate's word rant back to not pretend we dont notice what is happening here. yuk

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    7. I still don't know the reason for your blog rage. If someone is tagged as a paranoid imbecile and you feel that's undeserved, why not tell us why that's a mislabel?

      Perhaps you should step out from behind your veil of anonymity and set us straight. Alternatively, you might consider cooling off. Reading this blog is not obligatory.

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    8. @Anon...

      'indigopirate' [that's me, whoever the bloody fuck I am] pointed out an inconsistency in the tale related above wherein an instance of assault [assault need not involve physical contact] and/or menacing [depends on jurisdiction] was supposedly disregarded despite being reported. In most jurisdictions assault and/or menacing requires that it be brought to court once reported. As a rule it's not in the DA's jurisdiction to simply ignore, nor in an officer's discretion to ignore.

      Those inconsistencies in the story strongly suggest that someone's [no way to know who] lying in some way. I said so. You then demanded to know how I knew someone was lying and who it was, etc.

      That's fucking paranoid, dude.

      It's also fucking stupid, dude.

      Assuming you're relating the story second or third hand, you might have figured that out and acknowledged it.

      Instead, you've continued to spin out of control.

      Guess what, this is annoying.

      I responded accordingly.

      If you have even the least sense you'll step back and try to cool out, get a little perspective on the original statement, and regroup.

      You've tended, in your posts, to act as if it's the job of others to explain the world to you, to your satisfaction.

      That's an attitude frequent among 'progressives' of the Pacifica variety in my observation.

      It is profoundly paranoid, delusonal, and just plain fucking stoopid.

      [Yes, that's a deliberate misspelling, for effect. Try and keep up, okay?]

      I have no idea what sad little personal planet you're from, but it doesn't work well on this one, whether we're talking the net or irl.

      You have in my judgement no right to demand others explain any and everything you have in mind to your satisfaction.

      If you make that attempt you may not care for the response.

      Duh.

      Got it? Get it. Try and grow up a little.

      Just a little.

      If you insist on annoying people they're likely to respond as if you've annoyed them.

      If you don't care for that, don't do it.

      Try the equivalent of that in a bar and you're likely to get some seriously unpleasant consequences.

      A true educational experience.

      Just a little helpful advice. No charge :)

      ~ 'indigotheeverhelpfulandaccomodatingpirate'

      ps: Don't poke bears :)

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