tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post8359024061737002721..comments2023-09-08T12:08:39.523-04:00Comments on WBAI: FYI: Union Complaint Filed against PacificaChris Albertsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12056345320709233401noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-75319044896312602282014-04-30T19:04:06.161-04:002014-04-30T19:04:06.161-04:00Tracy wrote, "As you know perfectly well, you...Tracy wrote, "As you know perfectly well, you were found to have mis-handled several complaints at KPFA, 3 is the number.The most serious had to do with an internal hiring committee, where you were clearly notified multiple times of severe irregularities leading to a discriminatory outcome, yet you took no corrective action, and in fact yelled at and emotionally abused the staffer." <br /><br />I did submit some angry, disparaging e-mail from you, which I considered abusive, to KPFA's insurance investigator in 2013. However, I don't actually remember you "yelling" at me in person. I can't say that you were nice in person, or in meetings, but "yelling" is an exaggeration except insofar as one can yell online. A staffer making every effort to help you avoid creating legal liability for Pacifica, as I was, should not meet anger, insult and rebuke, as I did. Neither by e-mail nor in person. <br /><br />Far more serious, however, was your failure to take corrective action with regard to the KPFA hiring committee that had created legal liability by acting in ignorance of California law, the CWA labor contract, and written Pacifica policy regarding affirmative action, The issue was NOT racism. The issue was management. It is the station manager's job to protect the station and the foundation from legal liability. Ann Garrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07763740577715213433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-76069107067873256902014-04-30T08:41:13.432-04:002014-04-30T08:41:13.432-04:00Of course there is a box, Indigo, and you are in i...Of course there is a box, Indigo, and you are in it. Had you done research on how to mount a challenge to the DN! contract, you would have seen several approaches. Problem is, the PNB has no political will to actually oppose Democracy Now! and no competence to run the syndication of the show to Pacifica's advantage. Brooser Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08487438364129415650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-52108709141010842082014-04-28T21:22:40.046-04:002014-04-28T21:22:40.046-04:00I assume most readers know an empty bluff when the...I assume most readers know an empty bluff when they see one, Brooser – keep waving those arms and mumbling 'I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you.'<br /><br />There's a box?<br /><br />~ 'indigopirate'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-573537711186286612014-04-28T17:43:30.022-04:002014-04-28T17:43:30.022-04:00Goodman's contract with Pacifica can be succes...Goodman's contract with Pacifica can be successfully litigated and mitigated. No point in divulging it here where anyone can read it, is there? There are other things besides litigation that can also be done, again, try thinking out of the box. <br /><br />BTW, you are foolish to claim yourself amoral, unless you have previously acted without integrity and profited from it, do not idealize or admire others acting immorally, there is nothing in it for you.Brooser Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08487438364129415650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-66690292894370340302014-04-28T00:13:09.655-04:002014-04-28T00:13:09.655-04:00the center cannot holdthe center cannot holdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-24797624716390694862014-04-27T22:20:09.943-04:002014-04-27T22:20:09.943-04:00You’re attempting to shift subjects, Brooser. You ...You’re attempting to shift subjects, Brooser. You had offered your infinite depths of experience and wisdom as to the subject of contract negotiation/renegotiation, particularly in the area of entertainment law, and in this context you had offered the charming anecdote of an impoverished ‘music manager’ as if it might suggest credibility to your various declarations and pontifications – in which you’re consistently and indeed persistently inclined to present argumentum ab auctoritate – yet, of course, you have no authority in these areas, and simply present declarations implying same.<br /><br />If you’re so deeply knowledgeable in these areas, who the fuck was that ‘Lloyd’ I referred to?<br /><br />Let me be clear: I’m claiming no authority of my own in any area which I in any way address on this board. I’m anonymous. You don’t get to see my credentials. I’m content to let my arguments stand or fail on their own merits or lack thereof.<br /><br />I’ll leave vague implications of authority to you, okay?<br /><br />So… to the point of the moment: We are all, I’m willing to bet, aware of the fact that artistic merit has little if any correlation with commercial success. That wasn’t the point.<br /><br />The point was that you were holding forth, time and again, how easy it is with your deep knowledge of contracts in the entertainment arena to force someone in Ms Goodman’s position to renegotiate her contract.<br /><br />I presented the position that that seemed essentially inconceivable, that given the positions of the parties concerned Pacifica had no abiity to persuade her to negotiate simply because Pacifica would like to do so.<br /><br />You then vaguely asserted that, in your vast experience and knowledge in this area it was easily done.<br /><br />When I asked, simply, how, you attempted to deflect with a joke about your lack of interest in things monetary.<br /><br />Now you’re figuratively waving your arms and attempting to invoke anecdote and claims of moral authority.<br /><br />Did someone make you the Pope of Russia?<br /><br />I’ve already stated that I’m amoral – I make no claim to moral or any other authority.<br /><br />You’re very quick to claim moral authority, BB.<br /><br />You want to know what a Russian or any other peasant’s money smells like?<br /><br />It smells like shit.<br /><br />I would think that obvious.<br /><br />~ ‘indigopirate’Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-21973186752857046412014-04-27T21:23:52.366-04:002014-04-27T21:23:52.366-04:00Talent does not go hand in hand with commercial su...Talent does not go hand in hand with commercial success. Surely, you must know that! I love song and I collect musical recordings, that no one else has and that money can't buy.<br /><br />There is a Russian saying, Indigo: What does your money smell like? Meaning that it's not the money you make, but you make it like a man, with integrity - you don't work on your knees and you don't earn in a bent over position, or, in the case of Amy Goodman, you don't make your money by being a vulture. From what you been saying, it sounds like you have no concept of integrity, you don't care how the money is made, and you project these values on Amy Goodman.Brooser Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08487438364129415650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-74091770333900439542014-04-27T20:23:18.182-04:002014-04-27T20:23:18.182-04:00Must be a very successful producer to be every bit...Must be a very successful producer to be every bit as judgement proof as a musician he produced.<br /><br />Clearly the sort of person who navigates life on earth with savvy and skill.<br /><br />I therefore can well appreciate your acquaintance and your respect for his judgement.<br /><br />I very much doubt Ms Goodman expects to see her monies until Pacifica is forced into receivership – at that point, with assets on the block, as a debtor she's in a position to collect.<br /><br />In that consideration, with Pacifica all-too-clearly likely to be forced to sell assets, why on earth would she renegotiate her contract downward?<br /><br />Ah, yes, because the BB's of the world could say nasty things... and scowl... and turn the world against her ... that would do it!<br /><br />~ 'indigopirate'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-30510993848667714312014-04-27T20:12:28.746-04:002014-04-27T20:12:28.746-04:00Indeed not – I understand perfectly.
~ 'indig...Indeed not – I understand perfectly.<br /><br />~ 'indigopirate'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-81814679724351477912014-04-27T19:56:08.780-04:002014-04-27T19:56:08.780-04:00Andrew, what you described makes sense. My condole...Andrew, what you described makes sense. My condolences at what you refer to as "water under the bridge". I am not familiar with the facts of your case, but I am fully aware, that the one thing that could bring you down in the middle ages was the allegation of witch-craft. In the Stalinist Russia it was the allegation of being a foreign agent, and in present day America, your career can be utterly ruined by the allegation of work-place discrimination or sexual harassment. And just as there are real instances and real victims of workplace harassment and discrimination, there are also those who use these allegations for political maneuvers and to advance themselves and their careers by any means possible. So, my condolences.<br /><br />Am I to understand, that Brian-Edwards-Tiekert's Morning Show was cancelled, because he was the supporter of the KPFA faction, and his show's removal can be seen as a move to weaken KPFA and make it more dependent on the Pacifica national foundation. Or were there other reasons that they shut down his show?<br /><br />With regards to your characterization of Reese, it is consistent with her overall conduct. From what I was able to gather, and correct me, if I am wrong, her professional background is in sales and in working as a paralegal for some activist lawyers. Was she doing marketing for Federal Express, when she started getting involved with Pacifica? She was exposed to street activism by her parents. That political style, you describe as bullying and bullshit, dodging e-mails and avoiding putting anything in writing, is part street posturing, part activist organizing, and part legal, as in avoiding self-incrimination; all self-serving. That part of the organizing of her faction, previously described - where everyone stays on message, speaks in unison, and constantly keeps in synch with other members (or the leader) via texting, etc is straight from the radical left/communist playbook. It is called "party discipline" and not following it was grounds for expulsion from the legacy Soviet Communist Party. My big question is, did this organizing come from Reese or did this faction exist before Reese and Rosenberg came along, and if this faction preceded them, was this faction Marxist? <br /><br />The picture that emerges of Reese is that she is ambitious, self-serving, and ruthless. What I am really curious about, is whether she is doing it out of her own opportunism and ambition - get herself a decently paying job for the middle years, maybe even personally profit from the revenue generated by Pacifica, or whether Reese is working for someone, and she has backers and silent partners?Brooser Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08487438364129415650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-8889121133497877912014-04-27T19:22:44.809-04:002014-04-27T19:22:44.809-04:00Yes, Indigo, she is on your wave-length. I got tha...Yes, Indigo, she is on your wave-length. I got that. I know a music producer who is owed a few hundred thousand by a musician he worked with. Both are on the dole and living in Section 8 housing. I see THAT in store for Democracy Now; not quite as impoverished, but similarly so.Brooser Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08487438364129415650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-51772901449461243332014-04-27T19:09:38.870-04:002014-04-27T19:09:38.870-04:00I like my work to be fun and give me a sense of ac...I like my work to be fun and give me a sense of accomplishment... no four figure hourly rates for me!Brooser Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08487438364129415650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-65574475724991276462014-04-27T12:38:50.587-04:002014-04-27T12:38:50.587-04:00Andrew, I was actually addressing the anonymous po...Andrew, I was actually addressing the anonymous poster's vague assumption that Tracy "most likely" makes up most of what she says. That response was not meant to be interpreted as me aligning myself with one side or the other. The truth is that I am as confused as most people who follow this exchange must be.<br /><br />That said, I have had outrageous lies and deliberate misinterpretations slung at me on the BlueBoard—it is par for the course over there, but still ever a source of amazement. <br /><br />As for the current situation, I thought Reese was an improvement over Engelhardt, One reason for that was her hiring of you to straighten out the WBAI programming mess, another was her long overdue firing of Berthold Reimers. Then, just as I was beginning to soften my views on Reese's earlier actions, she blew up your efforts to take WBAI down the right path. <br /><br />Then came the Margy Wilkinson takeover. I hope your seeming endorsement of that is a reflection of your disgust with Reese rather than an acceptance of the enacted scenario. I think it was underhanded and it gave a slight boost to my low opinion of Reese, but that was short-lived, because I now found myself trusting neither side. That is still the case—I really don't see any hope for Pacifica as long as these players are in the cast. Clearly, they are not all going to vanish, so I'm afraid Pacifica's days are over and its stations have to be placed in capable—hopefully, enlightened—hands.<br /><br />In my opinion, you did the right thing by resigning and not selling out—it was the only honorable choice. These people are all fighting a losing battle, and for the wrong reasons. One consolation is that truth eventually finds its way out—and when that truth is on your side, you can relax. I hope you are keeping notes for the book somebody has to write. Chris Albertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12056345320709233401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-41054801401327599452014-04-27T11:34:43.632-04:002014-04-27T11:34:43.632-04:00Chris when you say: "your offer no proof...&q...Chris when you say: "your offer no proof..." I assume you are referring to Ms Rosenberg. She is hiding behind the confidentiality of the so called investigation on one hand, reporting from it on the other though there is no way to know if what she says is true or if true, how the findings were made - and remember I was never, repeat never consulted on the matter, not even told what the charges were.<br /><br />Tracy Rosenberg has a well recognized record of obfuscation, misrepresentation or in a word "bull shit", documented and corroborated by minutes and witnesses of the KPFA LSB. She has misrepresented my statements on more than one occasion shared my private personal personnel emails, claimed I resigned when I did not, claimed I applied for a national program director's position which I did not - I was offered such a position but requested more information which I never received from the lackluster Summer Reese who very seldom returns emails or even puts anything in writing. I saw her offer as a ruse to maneuver me to leave KPFA which turned out to be true since after offering me the position three times, when I did not accept it (since it was a phantom position and there was no money to pay me anyway) Reese ordered me to vacate my office immediately (which I did not since I had almost 100% of the local LSB and most of KPFA's staff) and the whole thing was a frame-up and many knew it. But as an at-will and interim employee I did not have much option other than step aside - albeit on administrative leave which meant I still was paid and only that because the LSB supported me and Reese/Rosenberg were ordered to do so by the Pacifica national board on advisement by Brian Edward-Tiekert who was staunch supporter of mine.<br /><br />Sorry for the long run-on sentences! God I am so sick of this sniping. My record as iGM at KPFA is a good one. The two R's may try to besmirch me, manipulate, throw up a kangaroo court's judgement against me but I know, the KPFA documented their support for me and not for the two R's - there maybe less than one dozen of the hundreds of producers at KPFA who did not support me and bought into this bullshit - nah - its a freaking joke and I should just leave it alone. But being retired now and almost a hermit up here in the bush doing a big of writing, gardening and teaching permaculture it fills a bit of time and possible amuses a few of the WBAI and Pacifica cognoscenti. andrew leslie phillipshttp://andrewlesliephillips.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-66918807256905555752014-04-26T23:32:58.866-04:002014-04-26T23:32:58.866-04:00You offer no proof to back up your assumptions, so...You offer no proof to back up your assumptions, so don't expect them to be taken seriously.<br /><br />A good hard look needs to be taken at all sides of this sorry situation. Chris Albertsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12056345320709233401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-56257609408937279742014-04-26T23:25:24.570-04:002014-04-26T23:25:24.570-04:00Everything Rosenberg says is highly suspect. Above...Everything Rosenberg says is highly suspect. Above, she complains that Mr. Phillips hasn't waives his employee right to privacy, then she proceeds to say whatever she wants anyway, most or all of it likely made up! This is the person who has been in charge of the network's finances for years, so when you look at the state of the network, take a good hard look at Ms. Rosenberg. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-85639954187985432212014-04-26T22:36:56.644-04:002014-04-26T22:36:56.644-04:00She 'would say that' because she's a n...She 'would say that' because she's a non-fool, and has no reason to 'renegotiate' a contract when such renegotiation is not in her interest.<br /><br />Duh.<br /><br />~ 'indigopirate'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-87839889758565405622014-04-26T22:34:48.694-04:002014-04-26T22:34:48.694-04:00As a member of the NYS, DC and CA bars you’re only...As a member of the NYS, DC and CA bars you’re only willing to bill out at your standard rate of $1100/hr and no pro bono work, of course.<br /><br />I understand perfectly.<br /><br />~ ‘indigopirate’<br /><br />ps: Say hi to Lloyd when you're next in Philadelphia, okay now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-55110183164410622802014-04-26T22:19:39.474-04:002014-04-26T22:19:39.474-04:00Of course she would say that. Interesting, that sh...Of course she would say that. Interesting, that she would pull Michael Ratner out of a hat over what is essentially a financial matter. However, I can think of a number of ways, all perfectly legit, to apply pressure on her to bring her to negotiate. As far as the Pacifica National Board is concerned, was that even doable, or did they have ideological blinders on, and would not entertain putting pressure on her? Am I correct in thinking that when the banned and the exiled faction beat the Pacifica Foundation in court, they saddled it with the Democracy Now contract? In retrospect, the biggest mistake that Pacifica made, was not making the situation absolutely transparent to listener-supporters.Brooser Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08487438364129415650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-9458728585973944412014-04-26T21:41:22.057-04:002014-04-26T21:41:22.057-04:00I don't give advice. Attorney work product is ...I don't give advice. Attorney work product is a marketable commodity, among other things.Brooser Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08487438364129415650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-71180605064269805972014-04-26T19:43:07.475-04:002014-04-26T19:43:07.475-04:00So you Tracy Rosenberg who seem to fit the categor...So you Tracy Rosenberg who seem to fit the category of "yenta" , think it's okay to tell others what Pacifica never told me, never asked me about, never heard my side of the story, to publicly share personal, personnel information on this blog and to call me liar here. You should walk very carefully at this point. Your information is biased and uncorroborated. You exaggerate and spin anyway you can in an effort to justify the kangaroo court you supported. You brought my personal emails between Summer Reese and I to a KPFA LSB meeting - you distributed them at that meeting and somebody made sure to remove the confidentiality clause. And then you misrepresent what I said. You have done this more than once, sticking your nose in other peoples business just as you are doing now. Why would I accede to you - and again what does any of this have to do with you anyway - why would I accede to you publishing a report I have never seen. The whole thing was a charade. And pray tell how I could I "misstate the contents of the report" when I have not seen the report. Your characterization that I "yelled and emotionally abused the staffer" is highly exaggerated. I think if people who know KPFA and its staff knew to whom you were referring they would understand completely how this whole thing seems to have spun way beyond any sense of reason. And it's so interesting to me that the work place investigator who never asked me anything about the so called investigation, was able to come to the decision you describe. And if so how strange it was that Summer Reese would appeal to me to help out at WBAI if I was such a risk. It's you who should cease and desist. andrew leslie phillipshttp://andrewlesliephillips.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-27176651870765744822014-04-26T11:26:03.403-04:002014-04-26T11:26:03.403-04:00My very sincere thanks for sharing your observatio...My very sincere thanks for sharing your observations, your knowledge, and your perspective on a few aspects of the various madnesses that have long been and are still Pacifica.<br /><br />As an outside observer with inadequate information to work with, I’m inclined to see the October conflict as a clash as to the assessment of emergency financial priorities and as to programming judgement – I readily acknowledge that you’re infinitely more experienced and knowledgeable in that latter than is Ms Reese.<br /><br />Perhaps most importantly, I respect your resigning on principle.<br /><br />Best wishes, in all things,<br /><br />~ ‘indigopirate’Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-44631843895454253132014-04-26T07:38:17.157-04:002014-04-26T07:38:17.157-04:00Just to clear the record regarding my resignation ...Just to clear the record regarding my resignation from WBAI and Summer Reese's and Berthold Reimer's implementation of the Null/Blodsdale juggernaut. I resigned because Null/Blodsdale were imposed by Reese in Morning Drive, something I'd specifically demanded not happen. Reese called late on a Monday night demanding Null run next day in the morning - no consultation just "do it!". I said no, that I planned to arise again at 4am and make it uptown to the Harlem studio and announce the change - which I did. And then I resigned. I knew the plan would not work. And I certainly was not going to be kicked around by a neophyte like Reese who has zero experience in broadcasting and bullied and bullshitted her way to lead Pacifica. Call it hubris on my part but it was the last straw, particularly after the way she'd treated me at KPFA when she and Tracey Rosenberg engineered an ersatz investigation of my "racist tendencies" and removed me as iGM at KPFA. To this day I don't know what the charges were, was never interviewed in regard to the charges not told the result of the "investigation". I was a fabrication. The outcome was the removal of J.R. Valrey, who himself had spread disgusting racist gossip on and off air and whom I'd suspended whilst I was iGM. Furthermore, it was Summer Reese who was supposed to deal with that situation - she took it out my hands but did nothing leaving KPFA open to serious litigation. Following the "investigation" Valrey was permanently suspended from KPFA which was the right decision. I believe the action by Reese and Rosenberg was a cover for their own culpability. All this was documented by me and reported to the KPFA LSB but now its water under the bridge. But that was some of the background to my relationship with the pretender, Summer Reese. And note too that it was Rosenberg who was behind the removal of KPFA's morning show back in October 2010 which was really a cover for the removal of the talented and hard-working Brian Edwards-Tiekert. I eventualy was able to reinstate part of the old KPFA Morning Show which greatly improved morning drive and brought in substantial funds - up to $8k in an hour but at least half that consistently in a much smaller market than NYC. But more importantly, produced an excellent and consist program<br /><br />Back east Reese asked me to take on WBAI and I agreed since I had a plan. I'd been monitoring WBAI whilst I was on administrative leave in he hills of Oakland. I told her that "when a bone breaks it heals stronger at the joint" and I took on a the task to try rebuild WBAI. There is a lot more to this story and perhaps one day I'll write it one day <br /><br />Drive time (morning and evening) was/is an opportunity to build audience and though it was very, very late in the game it was the only possible approach to attempt rebuilding audience. There was no way that Null could do it. His credibility and his premiums are bankrupt and he demands upwards of 50% of the cost of the premium so the real financial benefit is much less than it appears. Additionally and importantly, after the implementation of Null in the morning he made very little money in that slot anyway. I believe the most he made was less than $2k. So it was a stupid move by Reese and Berthold on all counts. <br /><br />andrew leslie phillipshttp://andrewlesliephillips.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-47674154976101809392014-04-26T05:03:52.372-04:002014-04-26T05:03:52.372-04:00"This is not R. Paul's BlueBoard."
..."This is not R. Paul's BlueBoard."<br /><br />What a disgrace he is to his own values. This is a guy who has spent not years but decades cultivating a reputation as a big free speech advocate. If you go on his website, you are greeted with a bunch of self-important crap about his opposition to a 1996 law restricting certain internet-based speech. And of course, he would never shut up about free speech on his stream-of-consciousness show on BAI. But at the end of the day, when he held the power to censor and control speech, he couldn't resist it. He revealed himself to be as big a hypocrite as a fundamentalist pastor who rails against sin, and is then caught with a hooker. And the fact that he choked off that board at a critical juncture, when it actually might serve a real purpose, makes his hypocrisy even more egregious.<br /><br />Not that you haven't done enough already, but have you considered adding a bulletin board/forum platform to this website? You could make it nice and blue and set the font to look just like the old board. It would be worth doing just to piss off that hypocrite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486287910626602438.post-46154912074985411252014-04-25T20:07:30.854-04:002014-04-25T20:07:30.854-04:00Take a moment, BB, and enlighten me as to how liti...Take a moment, BB, and enlighten me as to how litigation would accomplish that?<br /><br />As an ignorant fool who's never negotiated a contract, I shall listen attentively to your words of wisdom.<br /><br />Help me out, how would that be done?<br /><br />Would you contract with the illustrious firm of Bombast & Fustion, LLC,<br /><br />Thanks in advance for the advice,<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />~ 'indigopirate'<br /><br />ps: I have literally no idea what morality is, sorry, I'm absolutely amoral.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com